7-speed gear lever

"kanadanmajava1" (kanadanmajava1) 11/08/2016 at 10:14 • Filed to: None

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One test vehicles at work had an interesting gear lever.

TheHondaBro > kanadanmajava1 11/08/2016 at 10:19

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Ooh it’s a dog leg first gear.

not for canada - australian in disguise > kanadanmajava1 11/08/2016 at 10:21

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Your work vehicle is a Corvette/911?

Cé hé sin > kanadanmajava1 11/08/2016 at 10:35

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Some kind of truck thing?

Like this with fewer gears.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > kanadanmajava1 11/08/2016 at 10:38

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Slowly working up to the Fast and the Furious gear lever.

V8SRULETHEWORLD > kanadanmajava1 11/08/2016 at 11:05

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Nice F650.

petebmwm > kanadanmajava1 11/08/2016 at 11:08

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i want it.

kanadanmajava1 > Cé hé sin 11/08/2016 at 11:29

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Quite close. Not a truck but a bus. Test drivers said that it was very tricky to shift. The bus was a former bus drivers’ education vehicle. Normally our city busses have automatic gearboxes.

kanadanmajava1 > TheHondaBro 11/08/2016 at 11:31

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Yeah. I have never seen any other 7-speed gear lever with a dog leg pattern.

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > kanadanmajava1 11/08/2016 at 11:41

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Very cool! :) Where do you live sir?

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > Cé hé sin 11/08/2016 at 11:42

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What does C mean? Also does the little dot mean there’s a lockout on 5th and 6th?

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 11/08/2016 at 12:00

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Crawler gear- massively lower than 1st. Only practical use for it is a fully laden vehicle needing to do a hillstart.

Cé hé sin > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars 11/08/2016 at 12:18

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The snow is a clue....

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > Cé hé sin 11/08/2016 at 12:21

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Somewhere Scandinavian is my guess :P

EDIT - Managed to blow up the image enough to read the FIN tag on the license plate! :D

Cé hé sin > kanadanmajava1 11/08/2016 at 12:22

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Oooh, a Scania! We have those too plus Volvos. They all have ZF automatics.

We used to have Leyland buses with SCG semi automatic boxes. After that they tried Detroit  Diesel two strokes which used to leak oil from every pore.

Cé hé sin > TheTurbochargedSquirrel 11/08/2016 at 12:26

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C is crawler. It’s a two range box. The dot is to point out that the gears to the right - 5 to 8 - are in high range. You engage neutral, release the clutch, slap the lever to the right and then engage what used to be first and is now fifth.

kanadanmajava1 > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars 11/08/2016 at 14:42

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Snow is indeed a fact now. And I do live in Finland. We do test vehicles outside Finland too so some plates are misleading. Tomorrow we are fetching a British double decker from a ferry.

kanadanmajava1 > Cé hé sin 11/08/2016 at 14:47

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I have driven some Sisu trucks (local brand) that had this “slap the shifter” to go in low/high range. It’s quite easy to drive with those.

I think we have some city busses with Voith or Allison boxes too but most seem to use ZF.

ateamfan42 > kanadanmajava1 11/08/2016 at 14:59

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With the exception of the 911 and Corvette, I think the only place one will find 7 (or more) gears are trucks. On those, 1st is often so short that is only used starting off with a heavy load. So the majority of the time, the driver starts in the upper left of “2" making the effective shift pattern a bit more ordinary.

Cé hé sin > kanadanmajava1 11/08/2016 at 15:22

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Some people refer to it as the “bitch slap”.

Not me, obviously.

Top trivia: the Voith bus gearbox (they use it on trains as well) is a strange beast with its torque converter in the middle. The gearset on the input side transmits torque mechanically and the one on the output side works with the torque converter.

So, first gear: start off with the torque converter, gradually switch to mechanical drive

Second gear: first gear with all the torque transmitted mechanically

Third gear: direct

Fourth gear: overdrive.

kanadanmajava1 > ateamfan42 11/08/2016 at 16:18

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I have driven with a heavy empty truck that had 12-speed semi automatic gearbox. Is started with the 5th gear frequently.

I think that 2017 Aston Martin Vantage V12 is going to have a dog leg 7-speed gearbox as an option. I’m not sure if they are selling those yet.